What does it take to fight corruption in Ukraine? Levan Duchidze is the country manager for Ukraine of the International Development Law Organisation IDLO and he has been working to counter corruption in the country. He talks about the difficulties in going against powerful people who in Ukraine are widely represented by oligarchs, but he also emphasises the need to keep working on the anticorruption fight in order to also advance in the physical war initiated by Russia. With his long activity in the politics of his homecountry Georgia, Levan sheds light on what can be learnt from the journey to lift a country out of the infamous position of one of the most corrupted countries in the world. Speaking in the Hague, Levan also discusses the role this city can play in supporting Ukraine’s own journey.